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G’day NOPE .....Not One Puff Ever.... (replace Ever with Min,Hour, Day as required)

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Ok Peeps Riding the Train I tried to post a number this morning ..I must have pressed something dunno what ,but the whole lot disappeared. I have messaged MQ to see if he can put it back…I don’t have the power .. So I’m sorry ,but I’m sure it will be up and running before we know it .. Guess I need another good slapping xxx

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Your right in saying it’s not for everyone I posted this in case Newbies didn’t know it even existed. It gives them the opportunity to read if they want to . we all have to find our own path and share our journeys . No matter what route you take you still have to put the work in

G’day NOPE .....Not One Puff Ever.... (replace Ever with Min,Hour, Day as required)

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How are you doing @Breath-of-Power? I do hope that you were able to hang on to that exceptional quit you have going.

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Totally understand, and just to be clear I was responding to the original poster's invitation for anyone's thoughts on Carr--I definitely wasn't criticizing any individual or response. C99

I am not a fan of Carr's book. I raise this not to disparage the work or those who find it helpful: there is absolutely no doubt that it has helped a lot a people and saved a lot of lives. That's an incredible accomplishment and legacy. But I mention this because at times Carr and his positions were (and I think to some extent still are) viewed as almost sacrosanct and that if one didn't/doesn't subscribe to his method or identify with his style then there is something deficient in the quitter's approach. I should note that this almost cult-like devotion was mostly apparent to me as I was first quitting and in the the first decade or so of my freedom, and I don't really know if it's as prevalent today. That said, I did have some exchanges about and with Joel Spitzer in the 20 teens (maybe on this site, maybe on a previous one) that suggested to me that there's still a kind of "The Easyway is the Onlyway" bias in quitting circles. And in terms of approach, Carr and Spitzer have lots of similarities, well beyond their shared antipathy toward NRT. I am sharing this, too, because I want to validate other experiences of and approaches to quitting. For some people (like me, for instance), there was or is no easy way: quitting can be messy, complicated, miserable, and seemingly interminable, and simple reframing of the experience does little to mitigate it. In fact, I'd argue that it can even intensify the difficulty if one internalizes the message that it can and should be easy. Some quitters, for a range of reasons, need to lean into the misery; those of us who did or do might find that Carr simply does not resonate with (and even, in the worst case, insults) us. So if Carr doesn't speak to you, it doesn't mean you're not listening; it could be that you're equipped--temperamentally, intellectually, emotionally--to respond to a different speaker and message. Christian99 22+ Years Quit

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This book has helped millions Quit, what have you got to lose in reading , you can gain so much , I read it , and so have many here x

You have been putting nicotine and a heap of other crap in your body for decades . If course your going to be thrown into turmoil for a little while , but the end result is so worth it. I call it the Nico Monster , it trying to get you back in the trap . We say you can do it , because we know you can .you just need it bad enough . I smoked 52 years , I thought I would die a smoker How wrong was I , every smoker can quit , your no different , Don’t throw away that wonderful Quit , hold on to it for your life …

I think anyone who's attempted to quit has felt the same way as you are feeling right now. Unsure at times if we could actually do it or not. The answer to that lies within you and you alone. The question is always the same; do you want to quit more than you want to smoke? You have a couple weeks invested in your quit now. Two of the toughest weeks you'll go through. Wouldn't it be a shame to waste those by throwing in the towel at this point? The more time you invest in quitting, the more reason there is to continue on with it because of that emotional investment. You don't know what's going on with you because your whole daily life as a smoker has been turned upside down by quitting. Smoking was tied to everything you did day to day so of course you feel lost now; anxious, angry and just plain uncomfortable. You're going through the process of learning to live your life without cigarettes at every turn. Doesn't it make sense to continue with that now that you've started the process? That's how you solidify your own quit by continuing to go through your daily routine without smoking. After awhile, that will become your normal state of being and you'll even wonder why oh why you ever smoked in the first place because it will seem so un-natural to you. The only way to get to that point is to carry on doing whay you're doing right now. All the quit symptoms you are feeling right now will slowly fade away as you become more and more established as a non-smoker. That process IS the same for all of us and that's why people are often moved to say; "If I can quit, anyone can!" The only reason any person would have to say that can't quit is if they choose not to. The ability to quit is within all of us unless we consciously choose not to. You've done much of the heavy lifting already in these first couple of weeks. Make that count for something and carry on!

The only people who can't are those who give up. You have to be willing to go through the bad days to get to the good days. We all had to.......

Hi beazel Sorry to hear you were unwell.I missed the original post.hope your well on the way to tecovery

beazel - how are you doing? I was sad to read of your health issues. Great gift you gave yourself talking smoking off the table! Makes more room to focus on important stuff- like recovery & getting stronger. I hope you are well in to both. L4L

Its not that i want a cigarette. I just dont know whats going on with me. My quit is a though one, i dont know about others and i dont want to hear "if i can do it, you can" brcause that is a fallacy. It rather works "I can do it, and so can you" everyone can? I dont know. Maybe some people cant. As you can see, it is/seems hard but thnks for this forum.