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the weird part though is we thought loading up on extra nicotine would carry us through for longer than normal. All that extra nicotine when we smoke more in advance really doesn't seem to help. Maybe a few extra minutes but we won't notice the difference. Then after two hours of all that "extra" we need another smoke.

Bad days come and go. Typically it is within the first week or two that the worst ones happen. Sometimes though the worst days do not come for a few months. I didn;t struggle much until about my three month mark. Caught me off guard. Within that first week is when I imagine most people blow their Quits. Do not be one of them. Sooner or later we have to pay some dues, in the form of nasty craves, when we quit smoking. Might as well get that crap over with now instead of giving in and being back to square one.

Reci, it sounds like the Canadian justice system is just as big a joke as what we have in the USA. So this attack, no real motive? Not like a protest going on like Charlotsville or anything, just some random attack? Sometimes extremists do this type of bullshit over whatever reason, not realizing it is NOT going to help their cause. Phuckin prick needs to rot in hell.

Did they play "cosmic girl"? Now with the important discussion taken care of... It was probably just your body and senses getting pissed off. They are conditioned now to NOT deal with smoke. Plus you said people were smoking cigs, pot, you name it... Probably the fumes of some crack, spice, vape, big fat people farting in excitement, etc... Had it been JUST tobacco smoke you probably would have been ok. You think that stuff is bad though - you should smell my car's exhaust.

You made it through three solid days without a smoke. It may or may not be easier at this point but one thing for sure - You now know you can survive a day without one so keep that in mind next time you want to light up. Like, "Well screw it, i made it this far, why not keep going?"

About all there is when it comes to TV. Well, I would say you know smoking is not the answer but you know that. Instead - Do what you can to stop again, however, if it proves difficult, do not beat yourself up over struggling to quit again, should it be hard. Right now you have a lot bigger issue at hand that is causing stress so concentrate on one healing at a time.

waybackmachine doesn't archive everything on a message board unfortunately. Maybe the main pages but not things like threads, profiles, etc. Kind of sucks cause i have tried to find thing on now-defunct boards (nothing smoking related) i once visited

Bakon is gonna whoop dat ass when he sees what you posted here.

If reci left for any good amount of time - I am sure Jo would be fully capable of taking over the listed duties. We need to look at the real concern here... Who's job would it be to comfort MrTitwank if Reci were gone? Wank would be singing -

Ya know, this is true. I am starting to feel better. I guess temptation comes and goes. By fabulous do you mean like I am strong at KTQ or more like i dance around with glitter pink boa's they way they might do at a drag queen show? It is ok for the rest of us to wobble but is it OK for MrTitwank to wank?

Shit you ain't gotta be ashamed if you relapsed. Just get back on and try again. The only thing i would say is when or IF someone relapses, just try to examine what caused it and avoid that if you can in the future.

Good to know I am not the only one who has occasional thoughts of wanting to roast a nice cancer stick. I guess battles will come and go, and today i won a small one. Well, she was not out in the yard with me, just at the counter where you have to pay $2 to go rummage through wrecked cars for parts. But asking her for a match? Her voice and Fran's voice were a match but i do not imagine that would light a cigarette. To avoid hearing her voice though - I would not ask her for a glass of piss if I were on fire. BUT - on the way back in, I could have taken two of the cigarette butts and used them as ear plugs. Hindsight is always 20/20. Hell no it ain't got no mercy and especially no pride. Romancing the cigarette - Yeah i still do that but I KNOW better. Even for a smoker, a 1/2 smoked cigarette is gross anyways, kind of like any leftovers. I do not know how or if DNA is changed but what DOES happen for sure is our smoking addiction carved a pathway in our minds for being addicted to tobacco. I would imagine that equally sucks. We sure as heck were not born with a tobacco addiction the same way we were all born with an instinct to hate Taylor Swift.

I didn't smoke one. Bt here is what did happen - So I am at the junk yard looking to find a suitable shift lever boot instead of the ragged ol ghetto cloth the previous owner put on there. I find a car same as mine with it still there and in good shape. The ash tray was full of 1/2 smoked cigarettes. My knee-jerk thought was, "Too bad I do not have a lighter". It wasn't "Glad i don't smoke anymore" like it should have been. If I had one, my "quit" probably would have been gone THAT instant. I was kind of stressed anyways cause the lady at the check-in counter had a REAL loud whiny voice like Fran Drescher. And she would not shut up, I had to plug one of my ears. Then the check-out lady was practically screaming as she talked. About people with real loud voices - I wonder if it gets a lot louder when they yell or if they talk with a voice that is already close to their max decibel capability anyways? The way home was interesting too - So behind me on a motorcycle was some guy who's helmet resembled the face mask that Bakon is wearing in his signature. Doubt it was him but if so, I would have got out of the car and been like, "hey bakon, i am Jetblack off QT". But yeah I am kind of weirded out - I see some 1/2 smoked cigs and actually wanted one. They could have been from some STD herpes-ridden hoebag and the only thing that stopped me - no lighter.

Well jeeze, if you have ever smoked anything by Phillip Morris (marlboro, Pall mall, etc) you know their nasty cigarettes taste like bleach. Plus they had that stupid cowboy thing going etc. Even when I did smoke, I just did not care for Phillip Morris anything. Hopefully this isn't because of vaping rates going up, which is equally BS. Hwll with them, may they choke to death

Here is something funny related to what Martian5 said - So the statistics say we do not have a chance. I remember at the start of my own quit i came across stuff that showed pretty sad chances for someone to quit smoking. My knee-jerk thought was, "Hmm, do i need to go back to smoking so i can quit again using their "quit help" product? Most of us around here, including nosmokinjo, are not trying to quit smoking. We already HAVE quit. Did we do it wrong? As we go through life without tobacco, are we KTQ wrong? IS THERE a wrong way to totally quit the cancer sticks? The point is - whatever BS there is out there saying only 1% succeed, it doesn't matter now. For many of us, the worst suffering is in the past.

And for only 10's of 1,000's of dollars, your home can look this nice too.

Ahh alright. So right now you are using no nicotine, period. Excellent! Perhaps what separates this quit from the rest - Likely your last Quit on Nov 28th was the one you truly wanted. The scale finally tipped and you wanted to quit more than you wanted to keep smoking. Some of us do have a history of relapse. I have had plenty of "four hour quits" in the past. Back in 04 or 05 I had a three week quit. "Just one won't hurt". I think what happens with anything difficult is that when we hear or read about failure rates or obstacles, it is discouraging. It is like, "Oh geez thanks for the vote of confidence". But you have one better than some vlogger or article on the web - your OWN vote. You decided you can do this and you are doing it. With taking advice from someone without first hand experience - People have different outlooks but for me, I prefer talking to someone who has "been there" with whatever I am trying to accomplish. Most important - anything that helps should be sought.

Whispers - So you and i have about the same number of smoking years. Seems like we would have had coughing problems longer than we did. Maybe damage goes up exponentially after some point that we didnt quite reach?

Barry so in the 1980's it was about 50 cents a pack? Even with inflation it is hard to imagine them that cheap. Especially cause one of my favorite brands is now $8.50 a pack. My dad said he got kind of urked when they went up to 55 cents a pack at some point.

I smoked about a pack a day for 15 years. For the last two years it was 30 a day but they were weak cigarettes. "light" non-menthol. It seems like that night time breath rattle and the hacking/coughing went away within a few days. I KNOW for fact though that by Thanksgiving it was completely gone. I was in the hospital for something unrelated to smoking and they said my lungs sounded really good.

A few times in life I have smoked a joint or two. Not a habit by any means. Anyways, if someone quit smoking tobacco but tried a joint, would it cause someone to have strong urges for tobacco again? I think that would be my main concern if offered a joint.

I am not sure if you will see this or not because we typically disagree but - First of all, know that Joel has never used tobacco in his life so he doesn't know first hand what an addict goes through. That is to say, it is better to listen to actual addicts (like everyone on this board) Also - statistics don't mean a hell of a lot. You know how often they will LIE about things to get you to fail and hopefully buy their B.S. product or whatever? You are no longer a smoker. For my money, I would gamble that even when you do get off the gum, you will NOT relapse. You may have some nicotine withdrawals but i doubt the urge to smoke will be any stronger than what it is right now. Your quit is coming up on FIVE months. There is no way in hell you are going to start smoking again, NRT or not. Breaking the smoking habit itself is worse than nicotine W/D. We all know smoking is more than just a nicotine addiction - it is a complete habit, routine, etc. And you know you have layed that habit dormant. You know what Jo? You are strong enough to KTQ regardless of some "statistic" that says otherwise. Don't even worry about starting up because you know you have no desire and you have made it through the three day, week, AND month battles. If you ARE worried that cigarettes will creep back in, remember this at least - since you broke the smoking habit, you have the time right now to plan the next battle should there be one if you quit gum. You got this.

Maybe this is a little late but remember this right now - Eight days ago you probably felt like just giving up the Quit and smoking. But you didn't. You made it. There may be weak moments or other big battles in the future but you were able to KTQ during those first three days. You are going on two weeks now. I hope this reaches you when you really need it.

Kev don;t let nobody run you off.

More likely it was something dumb like "Eau de impression of Taylor Swift's ass" or whatever.