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about 6400 from me. Holy crap that is a lot of cancer sticks.

No need to feel guilt. She can make her own choices being 18. But more important - kids are going to experiment. That happens whether the parents do a habit or not. Of course stay on top of things but i just do not see her taking up the habit at this point. Most smokers start before they are 18. However, if she DOES start smoking, it will be time for mom to start beating some serious ass. Though - what kind of "friend" does she have that keeps trying to offer cigarettes?

Of course they keep changing the name of it. I think "Juuling" is the latest thing. Anyways, all these things saying it is safer than tobacco or that it isn't harmful at all. Didn't they say all this about cigarettes at one point? The more respectful of us nicotine users at least accepted the fact that it is not healthy. When i started, i knew damn well it wasn't a good idea. I have no real clue why i started other than being curious about different tobaccos. Has anyone honestly said, "This must be alright" after taking their very first puff of a cigarette and having their lungs literally flinch? Remember THAT incident? And get this - On some videos these kids claim it is cool to use vape. Do what? I remember in school a lot of the bad kids smoked but I do not remember anyone being considered "not cool" if they didn't smoke. Some teenagers back then even said they wish they had not started. And besides - vaping is just kind of douchebaggy. Kind of like driving a Toyota Prius but not AS bad. Yeah I know bitching doesn't help. I just hate smoke/vape/smokeless/NRT/whatever with this weird passion. They act like it is safe but just look at the damage it causes. Every time vape comes up on the web, they act like it is some f******g God-send so people can safely use that nasty nicotine. Pisses me off. Like I sometimes mention, if i had to sum up why I quit in one breath - I got pissed off at the cigarettes. I wish everyone felt the same hate towards nicotine in all forms. But no, some GOTTA have that crap. Cut it out, tell the nicodemon to f*** off.

I hate everything about being smoke free.

There does come a point where it is like, "I am tired of this, tired of the coughing, wasting money, feeling like crap, smelling horrid, burning holes in my clothes, getting lectures, etc. Quitting cold turkey can be done. I assume that is what you mean by "no replacements"? If you do cave in though, the next step is to try to examine what caused you to give in and then use that to start a more solid quit. It sounds though like you are truly ready so you should not have any problems hanging onto the Quit. We have all heard those commercials that talk about failure rates for those going cold turkey. Or how nicotine is the hardest drug to quit. Hardly the truth. That is partially to blame for any worry or self doubt in the beginning. "They" want you to think this cannot be done so you will buy their useless products. EDIT - To kind of expand on what Sslip said - Once you make it a solid 24 hours without smoking, even ONE day, you have then proven to yourself that you CAN go, voluntarily without smoking. Then you know it can be done. You will have something to build on.

That is the second best part of quitting smoking. The VERY best part is that Reciprocity hired in that sexy male stripper dancing, the one in the OP. Getting to watch that would motivate anyone to not pick up another smoke.

If uggs and crocs were to have a baby, this is what it would look like. Now folks, here we have socks with sandals. But not white or black socks, but the worst shade of green. The only people allowed to wear that shade of green ANYthing are in the military. That guy could not get laid in a women's prison wearing GREEN socks with sandals.

Dead baby one? Not sure what that looked like (prolly no need to post it) but would that even be legal? Since America seems to have a hard-on about getting people to quit, I wonder why our smokes have normal packages? Even the warning about health effects is just on the side of the pack where people don;t look anyways. It was also one of the things that drove me to quit. Not the photos but trying to skirt whatever inconveniences. At one point i thought about supplementing my smoking with smokeless tobacco for times I could not have a cigarette. Then I thought, "Am I THAT hooked? So hooked to want to use smokeless so my precious addiction is fed?" I never actually did pick up smokeless though. I have used it before and it is just vile. I felt like a dumb ass and realized, "I need to drop this habit, this is bullcrap."

Truth is an offense. Your silence for your confidence. Do you hear what i hear?

*Ms. Smith does not exist. Just something i thought up. Or if she did, she probably died of lung cancer. Host - Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Ms. Smith who will be giving a speech about smoker's rights. (applauding and coughing from audience) Ms. Smith - Thank you. So first i would like to say (COOOUUUUGH cough cough choke cackle hack!) And also (COUGHCOUGHCOUGH choke hack cackle hackhackhack hawk) Excuse me I just (HHAAAAAAACK! WHEEZE Gargle cough ) need another cigarette (coughcough hack choke crack wheeze coughcough)... So anyways, I do not know about you all but i certainly feel enlightened. I learned something. You know, my last few months of smoking i sounded like this when trying to laugh or whatever. I learned to put down the stupid ass cigarettes that were preventing me from expressing my favorite emotional reaction - laughter. You know, even if putting down the cancer sticks do NOT have these benefits - Save us money, make us smell better, relieve us from having to hear dumb lectures, keep us from having to go to the smoker section, decrease chances of lung cancer, preserve our clothing by not burning holes in it... There is that whole thing even this board forgets about - We don't cough and choke like an obnoxious ass. I can scream with laughter again and not cough. Coughing is what non-smokers do to mock smokers. Who among us wants to be mocked? On another note - Sunday morning I went out walking while listening to my horrid 80's pop songs. I was about 1/2 a block from a church and some guy was out standing by his car smoking. I could smell it. Holy crap, I mean 1/2 a block away! My main feeling towards tobacco and smoking is this - pure hatred. I do not hate smokers but just the habit. It smells, it pisses me off. I laugh when I imagine the nicodemon starving and begging for nicotine. I smell someone smoking and it is like, "cut it out!" Gotta have that stupid precious cigarette don't they? Might not die soon enough as it is. Smoke ANOTHER cancer stick. Yep, what's one more nail in the coffin? It won't stink THAT bad. Eh hem. So yeah, I hate tobacco. but anyways, what did you take from Ms. Smith's speech?

One thing that sets bad with me is hearing or reading stories about people my age (early 40's) who died of this shit. It made me think, "Damn, when will I end up getting killed from tobacco?" But for anti-smoking ads - I think this one would motivate. Old cougar looking woman with a hole in her throat. There is not suppose to be a hole there.

At least also we get to get the worst of it over right away.

No, foot wear from walmart is neither stylish nor reliable. Bakon, here is a joke you might appreciate. When talking about birth control, one might say, "... of course the only birth control that is 100% effective is wearing crocs". I have a few wedges like pictured. Not sure if they are fancy but real comfy at least. My confession - oh my gyod if i could find a male friend who could not bare the thought of my feet hurting...

There is some good news here - As we know, smoking/tobacco use is a LOT more than just a hit of nicotine. It is a lifestyle. There is a fair chance you will go through a few days of "fog" but honestly, it isn't that bad. I guess it is like a watered down version of being stoned. Do try to be a little more careful during this period if doing anything dangerous if you have physical job or whatever. To be honest, i kind of enjoyed the relaxed feeling of the "fog". You quit smoking more than a week ago so the habit itself should start subsiding by now. You might be expecting this big, nasty, horrible crave to hit during a possible Fog but that is not likely to happen. You gave up the other elements of smoking so the last one, nicotine, won;t be missed much, if at all. The best thing to avoid nicotine and tobacco completely is to not have any form of it around. having an "emergency" supply would be too tempting. Let friends/acquaintances know you are quit. They will be reluctant to give you a cigarette even if you do ask. Most important, tell the nicodemon to phuck off each day. He will try to creep in, believe that, but you tell him where to go, he leaves with his tail between his legs. Some thjread on here described him as having a stench of death and maggots falling out of his mouth. Holy crap if THAT doesn't discourage wanting to smoke...

What are you talking about? Bakon can't read!

I do not have a ticker just cause i prefer to keep my posts "minimalist" with no signature nor picture. I do that on all forums though. Besides, in the unlikely case i DO blow my Quit, it would just make me feel worse to look at a "trophy" I did not earn or had to give back.

Not sure what this is about, maybe something got you down? But do not forget this in any case - You are part of the Quit community too

The terrible 3's are now done. While minor battles may come and go, the big ones are finished. Doing awesome.

Seven months is awesome. No turning back now.

Your first solid month. You are past three days and even three weeks. Things should be relatively easy at this point. Hang in there, we are proud

Now Joe, I will not pretend to know you REAL well but I might say - "being allowed" or not typically doesn't stop you anyways

There are some Quit boards out there with that policy - if you relapse, you are no longer welcome. Kind of sucks really cause many of us have relapsed at some point in our lives, even if it was after a "four hour quit" (who among us never had one of those?) Neither QT nor QSMB seem to have that policy. Of course back when whatever was happening, I had no clue there ever were smoking nor Quit boards. For whatever drama - yeah, four years later, I think most people involved are probably no longer on any Quit board whether they relapsed or not. There are "lifers" in some boards but most get bored move on after a couple years.

You could also wait til you hit 30 days which is a solid month. That would give you another week and then some of acquiring gold stars. Of course the longer we go without smoking, the less of a big deal the time seems. But then saying "over four weeks" many be more motivating than saying "30 days". Whichever psyches you up best of course. One day after a few months you probably won't want to sit there and try to figure out "how many days" cause it will be in the 100's. Just really commit to memory the feeling of beating the craves. They do come and go, and sometimes hit the hardest when we have our guard down, when we think it is safe. But then you think, "I made it this far without caving, I can do this".

The religious answer is that the anti-christ came and caused the world to flip upside down. Yeah whatever. The social answer (and more likely the fact) is this - When those two sunflowers were just buds, they had a disagreement. Instead of resolving things and "agreeing to disagree", they are both pouting and wanting to be right. One of them is going to have to be the bigger flower and just let things go. You need to go give them a stern lecture about how they are acting.

Well not just smoking but any form of tobacco is bad. The worst is chew. I mean it is gross and vile and BLEH. EDIT - I use NO tobacco but have chewed before. It is horrendous. Like putting a piece of poop in your lip But as we know, unless your name is Keith Richards, you cannot just poison your body for years and expect to live long. How the hell do some people survive like that? If you are struggling to KTQ - You think you got it rough, imagine being that guy and trying to quit. He just couldn't at this point. I mean it just could not happen no matter what. YOU, on the other hand, have a chance still. For Sunny - You are handling this. Yes, stand like a marine and realize you can beat the cigarettes. Giving up the quit - Stephen Hawking certainly would not stand for it. Ok that was a BAD joke but yeah, hang in there.