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  1. Laurence Tisch is the co-chairman of Loews Corporation, a company that acquired Lorillard Tobacco in 1960. Tisch and his brother Preston have been involved in a number of corporate takeovers including the acquisition of CBS, which they sold to Westinghouse Electric Corporation in 1995. Q. Well, have you inquired at any board meetings of Loew’s Corporation of any– of Dr. Spears or anybody else in Lorillard what the position of Lorillard is today on the issue of whether smoking causes lung cancer [unintelligible]? A. No. Q. Have you inquired as to what the position of Lorillard is at any time in the 1990s about whether cigarette causing lung cancer? A. No. Q. Have you inquired any time in the 1990s at to whether or not nicotine is an addictive substance? A. Of whom? Q. Anybody in Lorillard. [unintelligible], Dr. Spears, [unintelligible] judge, anybody? A. No. Q. Has the Loew’s board, to you knowledge, every had an agenda item or discussed smoking and health issues, just in general, at any time? Has it ever been an agenda item? A. Not an agenda item. The issue has come up in discussions, various discussions of Lorillard in lawsuits and things of that type. Q. Have you ever asked what position is Lorillard taking in lawsuits with respect to whether cigarette smoking causes lung cancer? A. I haven’t asked that question. Q. Have you ever heard any position being articulated, whether you asked the question or not, as to the position Lorillard is taking in lawsuits about whether smoking causes lung disease? A. No. I will state for the record, that although it is in my area, I think the representation that you previously made as to what the company’s supposed position is, is flatly… http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/settlement/
  2. Geoffrey Bible: Australian-born Geoffrey Bible became the Chief Executive Officer of Philip Morris, the world’s largest tobacco company, in November 1997. Bible is a veteran of Philip Morris, where he had worked as an accountant for nearly three decades. Florida v. American Tobacco Co. August 21, 1997 Ron Motley: “What percentage of the under 18 age cigarette market does Philip Morris enjoy?” Bible: “I have no idea.” Motley: “Have you ever asked?” Bible: “No, I’ve never asked.” Motley: “Do you know that it’s over 50 percent?” Bible: “No, I don’t. But I think it would be fair to say that if there are young people who smoke, since Philip Morris has about 50 percent of the market, that probably we have 50 percent of the cigarettes that young people smoke.” Motley: “Well, in fact, do you know that you have over two-thirds of the youth market?” Bible: “No, I don’t, and I don’t know how anybody could establish that.” Motley: “Have you asked anyone to tell you what percent of the youth market that Philip Morris has?” Bible: “No, I never have.” Motley: “Are you aware that in 1976 Philip Morris executives issued a report called `Why People Start to Smoke’ and then discuss children from the age of ten to the age of 18 and why they start smoking?” Bible: “No, I’m not aware of that. It doesn’t sound sinister to me.” Q. Mr. Bible, would you state your current position with Philip Morris? A. Yes, I’m Chief Executive Office and Chairman of the Board of Philip Morris Companies. Q. In common parlance, that means you’re the #1 guy? A. That would be right. Q. Sir, do you remember making a speech on Thurs–on Wednesday, April 24, 1996 to approximately 2,000 Philip Morris employees? A. Not specifically, no. Q. Do you recall a board meeting of uh, of uh, excuse me, a shareholder’s meeting that was to be held on–in April 1996 in Richmond, VA? A. Yes, that’s when we had our annual stockholders, meeting, uh-huh. Q. Don’t you remember, sir, gathering about 2,000 employees of Philip Morris in Richmond, VA…? A. Right. Q. And making a speech? A. That rings a bell now, yes. Q. And do you recall there was a newspaper article about that speech? A. I don’t specifically recall it, but I guess there would have been, yeah. Q. Yes and do you recall that you compared Philip Morris and the cigarette manufacturers as the Allies in World War II? A. I don’t recall that specific statement, but it could have been said. Q. Do you recall likening Philip Morris and the cigarette industry to Winston Churchill and President Roosevelt of the United States? A. I don’t recall saying that, no. Q. Do you recall describing anti-tobacco uh advocates as the uh Germans and bad guys in World War II? A. No, I never said that. Q. You never said that? A. Not to my knowledge, no. Q. You did not, then compare the cigarette as the Allies and the anti-tobacco, public health advocates as Germans? A. No, I don’t remember saying that at all. Q. Did you recall assuring the 2,000 or so Philip Morris employees that Philip Morris would eventually win over the public health advocates in the cigarette battle? A. I don’t remember saying the public health advocates. I could have–I don’t remember saying that, but I could imagine myself having said that we would win the battle. Q. Win the battle? A. Hmm. Q. And the battle is between the cigarette industry and the public health community? A. No, I think I would say those people who are anti-tobacco, generally. Q. That would include the Surgeon General of the United States? A. Could [unintelligible]. Q. It could. Are you familiar with the Tobacco Institute’s enemies list? A. No. Q. Do you, sir, personally consider the Parent Teachers Association of the United States as an enemy of Philip Morris? A. No. Q. What about the Mormon church? A. No, I certainly wouldn’t. Q. What about the American Cancer Society? A. No, I would not. Q. The American Heart Association? A. No, I wouldn’t say they’re enemies. Q. Do you recall that a verbatim record of your speech to your employees was recorded and turned over to the Richmond Times Dispatch on or about April 24, 1996? A. No. Q. Do you recall making comments, sir about 30 past and present Philip Morris employees having been warned that they were subjects of a grand jury criminal investigation? A. No. Q. You don’t recall making comments about that? A. No, I don’t. I do know that some people were uh called to grand jury, but I don’t remember making any comments about it, no. Q. Do you recall making the precise statement that “You vowed, you, Jeffrey Bible, vowed not to “sit silently as secret research materials are leaked to the media?” A. That rings a bell, yes. Q. Have you ever heard of the Committee of Counsel? A. No. Q. Are you, are you familiar with the name Henry Ramm, R-A-M-M? A. No, never heard the name. Q. Have you seen a document produced by Philip Morris dated October 1964 in which some British scientist described the Committee of Counsel as an organization of lawyers who ran the entire United States cigarette industry, from public relations to marketing to litigation to legislation? A. No, I’ve never heard of that or seen, nor have I heard of the Committee of Counsel, so… Q. So, If there is a Secret Six, it was kept secret from you? A. Well, the [unintelligible] in ’64, is that what you said? Q. Yes. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/settlement/
  3. Dr. Frank Colby is a scientist and researcher who began work for RJ Reynolds in 1951 and has worked for RJ Reynolds ever since. Colby is currently president of Frank G. Colby and Associates, a consulting company funded by R J Reynolds. Q. As you sit here today, do you believe that smoking has caused the death of even one human being? A. I told–I can regurgitate my saying again and again. Q. I’m to repeat the question. As you sit here today, do you believe that smoking has caused the death of even one human being? A. Uh, probably there is one exception. Somebody uses his cigarette to burn his, his home, but not from the point of [unintelligible] health, no. Q. And your position is the same as the tobacco industry’s position, correct? Q. Objection. A. My, my, my position is that the uh connections, allegations of the connection between smoking and health are a matter of controversy. In other words, it is probably no, but we can not deny the possibility it may, there may be a connection. I mean, we regurgitate that for the 15th time. I don’t think there’s any, any need for you–you cannot coerce me into, into lying or whatever you can. Texas v. American Tobacco Co. December 19, 1997 Motley: “All right. But as far as lung cancer and emphysema, you, Frank Colby, in 1997 do not believe that a single American has ever died from lung cancer or emphysema caused by smoking cigarettes?” Colby: “In and by itself.” Motley: “By itself, all right.” Colby: “By itself, the answer is no.” Motley: “Do you know who Jeffrey Bible is?” Colby: “Yes. He is the Goldstone of Philip Morris.” Motley: “He is what?” Colby: “The Goldstone of Philip Morris.” Motley: “He’s the number one man of Philip Morris?” Colby: “That is correct.” Motley: “Do you know agree or disagree with Mr. Bible who testified when I questioned him that up to 100,000 Americans possibly die from lung cancer caused by smoking every year?” Colby: “I don’t believe Mr. Bible nor the Bible.” Motley: “You don’t believe in Mr. Bible or the Bible?” Colby: “That’s correct.” http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/settlement/
  4. Alexander Spears is the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Lorillard Tobacco Company. Spears spent most of his life at Lorillard, having joined the company after he graduated from college in 1959. State of Texas v. The American Tobacco Co., et. al. July 24, 1997 Edward Westbrook: “Dr. Spears are you familiar with the statistics stating that approximately 3,000 teenagers start smoking every day? Spears: “I’ve seen the numbers in the press recently. That’s all I have.” Westbrook: “What do your marketing people tell you about that?” Spears: “Nothing that I can recall.” Westbrook: “Have you not asked them “Is this true or not true?” Spears: “No.” Westbrook: “Never?” Spears: “I don’t believe we’ve made this study.” Westbrook: “Is it any interest to you whether 3,000 teenagers start smoking everyday?” Spears: “It certainly has not been part of our strategy and therefore I would say it has not been of interest from a marketing perspective.” State of Florida v. American Tobacco Co. August 13, 1996 to August 14, 1996 Motley: “If I asked you to a reasonable degree of scientific probability, in your opinion has smoking cigarettes ever caused a single case of lung cancer in an American, what would your answer be?” Spears: “I don’t know.” Motley: “You don’t know whether it has?” Spears: “I don’t know.” Motley: “How many cigarettes a year does your company manufacture?” Spears: “Currently?” Motley: “Yes.” Spears: “About 40 billion.” Motley: “Forty billion? Spears: “Forty billion.” Motley: “So you continue to turn out 40 billion cigarettes a year not knowing whether cigarette smoking causes lung cancer; is that correct?” Spears: “That’s the same true– that’s true of any disease, or most of these chronic diseases. You don’t know what causes a disease.” Motley: “So you continue to sell 40 billion cigarettes a year, not knowing whether or not it causes heart disease?” Spears: “That’s correct.” Motley: “You continue to manufacture and sell 40 billion cigarettes a year, not knowing whether it causes emphysema?” Spears: “That’s correct.” Motley: “You continue to sell and manufacture and sell 40 billion cigarettes a year saying you don’t– strike that. If it were— if you were to– if some research project –” Spears: “Pick any subject I mean, I still don’t know. I mean any wild speculation wouldn’t…” Motley: “Well, does asbestos cause asbestosis?” Spears: “I think that’s well documented.” Motley: “Based on what?” Spears: “Based upon animal experiments.” Q. Do you think it has been scientifically proven, Doctor, that smoking causes any disease in anyone? A. That’s a very broad statement. I think I would need to know what the specific example is that one is talking about, as to whether it causes any disease in anyone. Smoking, like many other things, can potentially aggravate conditions that exist, so I would need to know more specifically what you’re referring to. Q. Let’s talk about lung cancer. Is it your view that smoking has been proven to cause lung cancer in any individual? A. No, that’s not my view. I don’t it has been proven to cause lung cancer. Q. All right. In your view, has smoking been proven to cause emphysema in any individual? A. No, I do not believe so. Q. Is it your view that smoking has not been proven to cause emphysema in anyone? A. Well, um, I don’t believe the exact cause of emphysema have been determined, other than in a group of people that have a [unintelligible] addiction synonymous with habit forming, uh, I think they are habit forming. Q. So, using that definition, then, you would agree that cigarettes are addictive? Report this ad A. No, I would agree that they are habit forming. I wouldn’t use the word addictive to describe that. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/settlement/
  5. Please see the .PDF file for the 78 page document. It's a must read! tobaccoexplained.pdf
  6. JH63, You are approaching this quit from a place of weakness instead of from a place of authority. You can without a single fail, quit smoking and stay quit for the rest of your life. Instead of saying "I have decide to start my New Year with a new quit attempt", how about "I've made a decision to quit smoking and I pledge to never, ever take another puff of nicotine." Be bold. Speak with intent. You are now accountable to all of us here at the support group. As long as you think that nicotine has a death grip on you - you're admitting defeat. Although it's true that nicotine is very addictive, it has no power over your mind or body. Please lay out your plan to quit smoking so I can take a look at it and perhaps add my two cents. Thanks!
  7. Welcome aboard and congratulations, Carla! Good that you're watching Joel's videos because you'll continue to add to your chest of knowledge as well as keep your mind occupied. Always focus on the positive. Keep your quit separate and protect it from from everything else in your life.
  8. If you look at the red box, you'll notice a button which takes you to another screen where you can customize the look of the message board. I've created neutral backgrounds that you can choose from and a few other customizations as well.
  9. Full Documentary - Death In The West: The Marlboro Story 376811460_DeathintheWestFull.mp4
  10. Interview Part II - We sat down with Dr. Mikovits for a second time to hear her response to the impact of part one and to further disclose details of her story. 2016340701_JudyMikovits(secondinterview).mp4
  11. Interview Part I - It all began after a 3 hour interview with whistleblower & scientist, Judy Mikovits. Her testimony shines light on the depth of corruption behind key players in our global healthcare system, after this discussion, there was no turning back. 1313371487_PlandemicPART1_1.mp4
  12. PLANDEMIC INDOCTORNATION - A documentary From the creators of The most viewed and banned documentary of all time. Pland3micIndoctornation.mp4
  13. I can't believe it's November already! NOPE!!
  14. Smoking isn't going to help you relieve your stress, it will only add to it! Once you see that you can get through this situation without smoking, your confidence level will go up and you'll feel like you won this battle. Once you're finished with the attorney, treat yourself to something to celebrate. Rewards work wonders.
  15. Panic attacks suck no matter the cause or as is often the case, no cause whatsoever. Great news that the doctor ran tests and found nothing wrong. You're not dying! If your panic attacks are from quitting smoking (which from what you've said they likely are) then pretty soon they'll go away. Whatever you do, don't even take a puff from a cigarette or use any form of nicotine (NRT, vaping etc.). Regular exercise will help with panic attacks and anxiety more than anything else. What many people find to be the most worrisome symptom when they are first quitting smoking is a general level of disorientation. The effect is usually due to a drop in blood sugar that often occurs in the first few days after quitting. The resources below gives suggestions on how to minimize the effect.
  16. From a post of yours from 9/19. You really enjoyed smoking. This is the big lie of being a nicotine addict. I too thought I enjoyed smoking. It wasn't until I was further along in my quit that I realized smoking made me feel horrible. After all, there was nothing enjoyable about sucking heat and poison into my lungs. "I enjoy smoking" is used to rationalize smoking. I know. I used to tell myself this.
  17. Absolutely not. I read Allen Carr's book and there is nothing in it that quitters hadn't already figured out. It's enlightening when you first hear from an "official source" that smoking doesn't help you cope with stress etc., but you can get that from his promotional video. Allen Carr couldn't quit smoking until his wife made him see a hypnotist to help him quit. That is how he quit smoking. Since then, they've applied the same principals in his original book, "The Easy Way" to come out with subsequent books on quitting drinking etc. Really, the easiest way is to simply not ever take another puff - EVER. If you want to read his book, that is fine and as @jillar mentioned, you can buy it for 8 bucks. This site is 100% free and you're not even bombarded with ads, annoying or otherwise. https://whyquit.com/joels-videos/the-isolation-of-the-widowed-smoker/
  18. I would pass on any alcohol until you're far enough into your quit that life is no longer a trigger for you. It may seem like triggers to smoke will always be a larger factor but they won't.
  19. Bope, Focus on the immediate health benefits. Quit Smoking Recovery Timetable Within ... 20 minutes Your blood pressure, pulse rate and the temperature of your hands and feet have returned to normal. 8 hours Remaining nicotine in your bloodstream has fallen to 6.25% of normal peak daily levels, a 93.75% reduction. 12 hours Your blood oxygen level has increased to normal. Carbon monoxide levels have dropped to normal. 24 hours Anxieties have peaked in intensity and within two weeks should return to near pre-cessation levels. 48 hours Damaged nerve endings have started to regrow and your sense of smell and taste are beginning to return to normal. Cessation anger and irritability will have peaked. 72 hours Your entire body will test 100% nicotine-free. Over 90% of all nicotine metabolites (the chemicals nicotine breaks down into) have passed from your body via your urine. Symptoms of chemical withdrawal have peaked in intensity, including restlessness. Unless use cues have been avoided, the number of cue induced crave episodes experienced during any quitting day have peaked for the "average" ex-user. Lung bronchial tubes leading to air sacs (alveoli) are beginning to relax in recovering smokers. Breathing is becoming easier and your lung's functional abilities are improving. 5 - 8 days The "average" ex-smoker is down to experiencing just three cue induced crave episodes per day. Although we may not be "average" and although minutes may feel like hours when normal cessation time distortion combines with the body's panic response, it is unlikely that any single episode will last longer than 3 minutes. Keep a clock handy and time the episode to maintain an honest perspective on time. 10 days The "average" ex-user is down to encountering less than two crave episodes per day. 10 days to 2 weeks Recovery has likely progressed to the point where your addiction is no longer doing the talking. Blood circulation in your gums and teeth are now similar to that of a non-user. 2 to 4 weeks Cessation related anger, anxiety, difficulty concentrating, impatience, insomnia, restlessness and depression have ended. If still experiencing any of these symptoms get seen and evaluated by your physician. 2 weeks to 3 months Your heart attack risk has started to drop. Your lung function has noticeably improved. If your health permits, sample your circulation and lung improvement by walking briskly, climbing stairs or running further or faster than normal. 21 days The number of acetylcholine receptors, which were up-regulated in response to nicotine's presence in the frontal, parietal, temporal, occipital, basal ganglia, thalamus, brain stem and cerebellum regions of your brain have now substantially down-regulated. Receptor binding has returned to levels seen in the brains of non-smokers (2007 study). 3 weeks to 3 months Your circulation has substantially improved. Walking has become easier. Your chronic cough, if any, has likely disappeared. If not, get seen by a doctor, and sooner if at all concerned, as a chronic cough can be a sign of lung cancer. 4 weeks Plasma suPAR is a stable inflammatory biomarker that helps predict development of diseases ranging from diabetes to cancer in smokers. A 2016 study found that within 4 weeks of quitting smoking, with or without NRT, that suPAR levels in 48 former smokers had fallen from a baseline smoking median of 3.2 ng/ml to levels "no longer significantly different from the never smokers' values" (1.9 ng/ml) 8 weeks Insulin resistance in smokers has normalized despite average weight gain of 2.7 kg (2010 SGR, page 384). 1 to 9 months Any smoking related sinus congestion, fatigue or shortness of breath has decreased. Cilia have regrown in your trachea (windpipe) thereby increasing the ability to sweep dirt and mucus out of your lungs. Your body's overall energy has increased. 1 year Your excess risk of coronary heart disease, heart attack and stroke has dropped to less than half that of a smoker. 5 years Your risk of a subarachnoid hemorrhage has declined to 59% of your risk while still smoking (2012 study). If a female ex-smoker, your risk of developing diabetes is now that of a non-smoker (2001 study). 5 to 15 years Your risk of stroke has declined to that of a non-smoker. 10 years Your risk of being diagnosed with lung cancer is between 30% to 50% of that for a continuing smoker (2005 study). Risk of death from lung cancer has declined by almost half if you were an average smoker (one pack per day). Risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus and pancreas have declined. Risk of developing diabetes for both men and women is now similar to that of a never-smoker (2001 study). 13 years The average smoker lucky enough to live to age 75 has 5.8 fewer teeth than a non-smoker (1998 study). But by year 13 after quitting, your risk of smoking induced tooth loss has declined to that of a never-smoker (2006 study). 15 years Your risk of coronary heart disease is now that of a person who has never smoked. Your risk of pancreatic cancer has declined to that of a never-smoker (2011 study - but note a 2nd pancreatic study making an identical finding at 20 years). 20 years If a female, your excess risk of death from all smoking related causes, including lung disease and cancer, has now reduced to that of a never-smoker (2008 study). Risk of pancreatic cancer has also declined to that of a never-smoker (2011 study).
  20. Thank you all very kindly. I completely forgot about my 7 year quit anniversary. Life happens which is a good thing!
  21. By @Angeleek Follow the link in the blog entry to the thread.

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