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Why is everyone only recommending cold turkey method here ?

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I'll see when you decide to stop abusing nicotine. 

Make sure you post that in Quit Smoking Discussions so we can have celebratory fireworks at hand.

Take advantage of this time and educate yourself about nicotine addiction.

 

Life is too rich to be burdened with addiction and you're doing Three.  Nicotine, Caffeine and Sugar.

 

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10 hours ago, Doreensfree said:

I can't count how many people have welcomed the frying pan ...and have actually saved thier quit ...

And have been very grateful.....

 

For me, it wasn't so much the frying pan as it was the threat of the frying pan.  Just knowing it was there, hanging by a thread like the sword of Damocles, was added motivation to not do anything stupid.

 

Fear the pan.  Respect the pan.

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This forum has saved me from cigarettes before .

I know this forum will save me from the gums too .

 

But right now i need a little  bit more time to quit the gums .

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35 minutes ago, Sunshine59 said:

This forum has saved me from cigarettes before .

I know this forum will save me from the gums too .

 

But right now i need a little  bit more time to quit the gums .

 

quit inside your head - the body will follow. if you did it once you can do it again. but this time make it forever. you are quitting a habit - so do not go around replacing one habit with another. eat gum if you feel like it but never because you do not have any other choice.  to make quitting smokes seem easy and small - give up something bigger. your mind will start to tackle that and you can quietly quit the smokes easily by the time your mind figures out it has been fooled. lol - play dirty harry. in my case i turned near vegan and fooled my mind and body, lol. 

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On 3/25/2020 at 1:38 AM, Sunshine59 said:

Everyone can't quit cold turkey !!!! Fact

 

 

That is quite possibly true, Sunshine59.

 

But don't knock it 'til you try it...at least once, or twice.  It's the fastest and cheapest way to be done with the whole sordid affair.

 

For me, any quit method that's legal, ethical and reasonably healthy is good in my book!

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I will add that the nicotine gum is a very sneaky component of nicotine addiction! For 10+ years, I was hooked to chewing nicotine gum between cigarettes. Talk about being super addicted!  When I decided to get serious about stopping smoking, I actually had to quit the gum for 6 months before I could quit cigarettes. 

 

Your withdrawal will fade soon.  Hang in there and good luck! Drink green tea or something else you love...not too much sweet.  

 

Thank you for lighting up this discussion. 

 

Kinda feels like the quit police around here sometimes, but it comes from the right place.  I for one have received a lot of support and knowledge here, and people who really care about something can get a little riled up, so it's all good.

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When I finally successfully quit cold turkey, I ran around feeling like I'd just found Jesus, and I wanted to tell every smoker who wasn't quitting that they needed to try going cold turkey NOW because it sucks royally for about 10 days but then the pain is basically gone and you're done and FREE! 

 

That feeling subsided after a few weeks, but I still like to share the benefits of quitting cold with whoever wants to know.  If you can endure the hardships of life you have surely suffered, cold turkey is a cake-walk by comparison.

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On 3/25/2020 at 2:08 PM, Sunshine59 said:

Everyone can't quit cold turkey !!!! Fact

 

 

 

nor does everybody quit that way. some do it cold turkey and some do it in a different way. it really does not matter how you do it as long as you do it and crawl out the tunnel and seal it forever. 

 

but what is a fact? and what do facts have to do with a quit? a quit is a personal voyage undertaken towards self liberation.

 

lets look closer. a fact is the analysis of something that has been - an analysis based on the past. facts are models of future probability based on past. 

 

it is a fact that most short people can quit easy and feel lesser withdrawal symptom as compared to taller folks 

(fyr a tall person is a person who stands over 6 feet tall in this study based on cog of the navel and height above msl) 

now - does this mean that every short person will be able to quit easier as compared to a tall person? possible but not definitive 

does that mean no tall person can ever quit easily or less painfully than a short person - possible but not definitive 

so - what has the fact done for us here. it has just reflected the story or truth of what has happened so far based on the data we fed into the system. 

ok, but then - if facts cannot forecast correct or rightly then why or how to use it?.

1. a fact is not a forecaster that is definitive  but is just a probability indicator. it is only true of the past up-to the moment it was declared.

2. for eg - if i were a tall man then - in this example i would be extra cautious in my quit and be mentally much more alert than if i were under 6 feet tall. - see, we used the fact to our advantage. 

 similarly if were short i would pump myself up in times of doubt that - look man - the facts says it can be done easy for folks like me - so i should be home for sure - let me ride these bumps out. 

it is not facts but the interpretation of facts that matters.

btw - the cog (center of gravity) of the navel and msl (mean sea level) have nothing to do with smoking

the facts in this example are a lie and something i just made up to show you how easy it is to twist facts to your advantage. 

 

everybody cannot quit cold turkey - correct, so true

how does everyone who quits do it then? 

ok, a few managed cold turkey too - all right !

how did they do it? 

how long did they take?

how tough was it?

how did they overcome the weakness and urges, them craves?

these are the kind of things you must focus on - then decide if cold turkey is for you. 

if not repeat the same steps with folks who quit using gums

if that does not appeal too then find folks who quit any other way

but quit. as long as you feed nicotine into your system you remain enslaved, chained and an addict. 

(be it sticks/ gum/patch/whatever else) 

 

one day you will have to let go that pacifier eventually. if you want to do it slow - fine - do it slow but steady. but never take a step back. 

 

fact is - i quit cold turkey.

fact - it was the easiest thing i ever did in all my life

fact - i i smoked for 35 years with a passion. loved cigarettes, stood and defended them until the last day of my quit and fought folks that meant so much to me as they stated truths i knew so well. 

fact - i smoked 35 sticks on the last day of my quit too

fat - i turned non-smoker in 24 hrs. i quit mentally after i crossed the impossible 24 hrs limit. 

 

come on fighter - facts are for folks in self doubt. a fighter has belief in thyself - self. that is the only thing that matters in the ring, in this fight, in every quit. every voice outside the ring can scream - you cannot quit. it does not matter. the only voice that should whisper inside you head is your own - i can quit, i will quit. Nothing else matters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/25/2020 at 3:38 AM, Sunshine59 said:

Everyone can't quit cold turkey !!!! Fact

 

LIE.  Everyone CAN quit cold turkey.  Many people Don't quit cold turkey. Pure Choice.

 

"I Can't Quit" or "I Won't Quit"

 

 

During my first few days of my 'quiting-on-a-whim' quit, my quit of 6+ years now,

 I was googling around and found so much misinformation about 'cold turkey'.  

Thankfully, found Joel Spitzer and this actual video.  I  was heartened and cheered.

Whatever You Do Don't Quit Cold Turkey

 

Breaking Free From Nicotine's Grip Is More Doable Than Most People Think

 

 

 

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I have been reading this dialogue for a few days, and for myself would say, it didn't come easy, (not a lie) Why because I didn't have enough knowledge of the Nicotine factor in cigarettes, at the time and my self belief was not strong. There are so many confusing issues surrounding NRT The Medical profession for one advocates you use NRT this is a big deciding factor, why this is I cannot say except to surmise, that they think, you might get too aggressive in the process of quitting cold turkey

 

I used Champix, albeit one per day and none at night, the difficulty came when I had to let go of the champix, it was the thought more than the actuality. I hung on for a week more than I should have because of this. Finally when I let go and went cold turkey, things weren't as bad as I imagined. I did find that I would be quick to temper at times, but I had to work on these things and change my view on various fronts without destroying my fighting spirit so to speak. 

 

I don't think whatever method you choose warrants an overzealous approach to helping another. Something will resonate within the knowledge presented for each individual person, but our own little voice is perhaps the best one to decide when and how. I was at odds with this dilemma simply because my niece (who is a health professional) and a beautiful person as one could ever meet was still using gum while I was home free. There was no desire to help her by telling her to stop the gum, or hitting her over the head. I had noticed she only used the gum at odd times, like a safety valve for her own stress levels. She is an adult, and has ceased smoking the cigarette which includes other chemicals like Tar, this in itself shows me although it has taken her quite a long time, she is committed to not smoking the cigarette. 

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6 hours ago, forestgreen said:

I don't think whatever method you choose warrants an overzealous approach to helping another. Something will resonate within the knowledge presented for each individual person, but our own little voice is perhaps the best one to decide when and how.

 

Well said.

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I think that's one of Joel Spitzer's best videos, "Whatever you do don't quit cold turkey."  It was John R Polito's Freedom from Nicotine ebook posted on the Whyquit website that got me thinking seriously about just going cold. That was my intro to Joel Spitzer!

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